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- Editor's Note: Received 8/14
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- CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
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- Reported by John Veizades/Apple
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- Minutes of the IP over AppleTalk Working Group (APPLEIP)
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- A proposal was made to limit the discussion to only old items, new
- business should be brought up either in future BOFs or when a specific
- Working Group is formed to discuss the issue.
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- MacIP
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- o Status and comments on the Evans-Ranch Document.
- o Could the Thursby DecNET model be used for MacIP-2?
- o Specific protocol description without any implementation details.
- o Implementation hints should be in the appendix of the document.
- o Goal for MacIP 2 to make customers happy.
- o Is there a desire or need to do anything more than document the
- current working model?
- o Time line for completion of this effort Proposed Standard by
- November IETF to the Working Group Chair.
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- IP over LTalk
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- IP over the localtalk Chris Ranch (Novell) wants to experiment with it.
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- General Appletalk MIB
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- o Discussion of DDP forwarding table and an understanding of the next
- hop gateway.
- o Add Diffs to 1243.
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- AURP
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- AFP
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- o Little to say.
- o Posted to pacer ftp in the next few weeks with differences from the
- previous specification.
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- MacIP MIB
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- Presented and will be published to the list for comments.
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- SNMP
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- Status of SNMP over DDP
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- o Being discussed in the Multiprotocol SNMP Group.
- o Going to Proposed Standard.
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- AURP
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- o Status of implementations.
- o Document to be published as an informational RFC.
- o Added Device hiding, ZIP storm, Backup paths, etc.
- o Implementation notes to be added to document.
- o Roll out at WWDC, InterOp DC, MacTivity, InterOp SF.
- o Shiva, Novell, Cayman and Apple are interoperating.
- o Contact Craig Brenner or Alan O at Apple to interoperate at InterOp
- SF.
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- PPP
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- o Really close to being a 100 percent done to be proposed as a
- Standard.
- o Interoperability ?? Cayman has some of this done.
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- Greg Burell and Routers
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- Codification of the bringing up of a router.
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- AppleTalk Routing Issues
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- What's next? Apple wants to come up with an advance routing protocol
- (local). Should have scalability, load balancing, type of service
- routing, no hop count limit, multicast routing. Link state vs.
- distance vector? Based on a Standard with a transition strategy. Apple
- will work independently, with Standards groups and with individual
- organizations. No commitment to use what comes out of the Standards
- Group.
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- Working Group Status- Greg Minshall
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- o NO forum for the discussion of AppleTalk issues in a public forum.
- o How does Apple fit into this structure. How does the IETF fit into
- this.
- o We have a Group of Working Groups that could take over this work.
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- Have to present this to the IESG.
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- Charters and presentation to the IESG by November IETF
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- o NO decision making apparatus.
- o Need to meet with Phil Gross and Vint Cerf.
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- Noel and AppleTalk in the IETF
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- o History of the AppleTalk proposed at the Santa Fe IETF and was
- discussed with Apple.
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- o Where is AppleTalk going in the long run... Do we always maintain
- a completely separate protocol stack.
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- o Proposed to Vint - do we move to a common layer three or even four?
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- o There must be a statement of where AppleTalk is going in the long
- run to get buy in from the IESG.
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- o Protocols that relate closely to the IETF sphere of protocols then
- the protocol can fall under the IETF- AppleTalk and IS to IS falls
- far a field of this.
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- Attendees
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- Atul Bansal bansal@wile.enet.dec.com
- James Beers beers@nr-tech.cit.cornell.edu
- Rich Brown Richard.E.Brown@Dartmouth.edu
- Gregory Bruell gob@wellfleet.com
- Philip Budne phil@shiva.com
- Cyrus Chow cchow@orion.arc.nasa.gov
- Tim Cleveland tac@lkg.dec.com
- Peter DiCamillo Peter_DiCamillo@brown.edu
- Karen Frisa karen.frisa@andrew.cmu.edu
- Bob Jeckell rrj@3com.com
- Miriam Kadansky mckadansky@eng.xyplex.com
- Hock-Koon Lim lim@po.cwru.edu
- Joshua Littlefield josh@cayman.com
- Greg Merrell merrell@caldec.enet.dec.com
- Beth Miaoulis beth@cayman.com
- Greg Minshall minshall@wc.novell.com
- Alan Oppenheimer oppenheime1@applelink.apple.com
- J. Bradford Parker brad@cayman.com
- Christopher Ranch cranch@novell.com
- Tom Reuther reuther@nac.dec.com
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- Mike Ritter mwritter@applelink.apple.com
- Sam Roberts sroberts@farallon.com
- Guenter Roeck roeck@conware.de
- Frank Slaughter fgs@shiva.com
- Timon Sloane peernet!timon@uunet.uu.net
- Evan Solley evan@farallon.com
- Brad Steinka brad@microcom.com
- David Stine dstine@cisco.com
- Wayne Tackabury wft@pacersoft.com
- John Veizades veizades@apple.com
- Steven Waldbusser waldbusser@andrew.cmu.edu
- Jesse Walker walker@eider.lkg.dec.com
- Jonathan Wenocur jhw@shiva.com
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